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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    The Dali is a modern ship built in 2015 by Hyundai. It definitely had rudder.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Dali
    Even with a functioning rudder, a coasting ship, with no main engine, will not respond well.

    They regained power long enough to back down, which was all that black smoke, that prop walked the ship to starboard on direct course to the bridge suppurt.

    There are many conspiracies in this world, but this is not one of them.

    It's just an accident, it has happened before, it has happened to me, and will probably happen again.

    The port of Baltimore is already open again and the channel will probably be fully cleared in another couple of months.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan



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  3. #152
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan



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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    *It's the same picture* meme with a picture of the twin towers on 9/11
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    *It's the same picture* meme with a picture of the twin towers on 9/11
    I don't see four thousand dead bodies.

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I don't see four thousand dead bodies.
    How many exactly did you see when the towers collapsed?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How many exactly did you see when the towers collapsed?
    Holy $#@!.

    Dude. I know you love being a useful idiot for the head psychopaths in charge, but don't try to sanitize their mass murders for them. Just don't. I don't care how appealing they make the websites that try to brainwash you into doing those eugenicists that favor. Some things God won't let one repent his way out of.

  9. #157
    Don't hyperventilate over there..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Don't hyperventilate over there..
    Why don't you try a little hyperventilation? Your brain could use the oxygen.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 05-14-2024 at 04:19 AM.

  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How many exactly did you see when the towers collapsed?
    Zero. There were no planes and no towers.


    New York City doesn't exist. They want you to think it's real which is why it's in TV, movies, and comics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Zero. There were no planes and no towers.

    New York City doesn't exist. They want you to think it's real which is why it's in TV, movies, and comics.
    Still more believable than that Joe Biden got more black votes than Barack Obama...
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Still more believable than that Joe Biden got more black votes than Barack Obama...
    What are you talking about? Trump got three times more of the black vote compared to McCain
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    What are you talking about? Trump got three times more of the black vote compared to McCain
    "Nearly two-in-ten voters who cast a ballot for Biden in the 2020 election (19%) were Black, identical to the share of Clinton voters in 2016 who were Black." [Source]

    Biden got 81.28M votes in 2020. [Source]

    0.19 x 81.28M = 15.44M votes

    In 2012, 13% of voters were black and they broke 93% for Obama. The total number of votes was about 126.8M votes [Source]

    0.13 x 0.93 x 126.8M = 15.33M votes

    Biden got more total black votes than Obama. I recall reading about this right after the 2020 election but I can't find a news article now, probably got memory-holed because it makes the BS fakery too obvious.
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    "Nearly two-in-ten voters who cast a ballot for Biden in the 2020 election (19%) were Black, identical to the share of Clinton voters in 2016 who were Black." [Source]

    Biden got 81.28M votes in 2020. [Source]

    0.19 x 81.28M = 15.44M votes

    In 2012, 13% of voters were black and they broke 93% for Obama. The total number of votes was about 126.8M votes [Source]

    0.13 x 0.93 x 126.8M = 15.33M votes

    Biden got more total black votes than Obama. I recall reading about this right after the 2020 election but I can't find a news article now, probably got memory-holed because it makes the BS fakery too obvious.
    There were 30M more total votes in 2020. Biden getting a similar number means that he got a lower percentage of black votes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    There were 30M more total votes in 2020. Biden getting a similar number means that he got a lower percentage of black votes.
    Sure, the percentage was a little lower but those 30M additional votes is the very thing being highlighted here. The numbers are so fabricated that, even with Biden's lower percentage among blacks, he still had more total black votes than Obama. Which is just silly. And while US population is growing, it's not growing at a rate of 30-million new voters in 8 years. US pop in 2012 was about 314M. In 2020, it was about 331M. That's a total increase of 23M people. Obviously, even many of those are not voters. But Joseph R. Biden, masked up in his basement, or waving to a parking lot of honking cars as a "drive-in political rally" was such a compelling political prospect that he drew crowds and crowds of first-time-ever voters to go to the polls, in droves. Politics is truly amazing. So amazing, it's not even believable...
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 05-15-2024 at 12:14 PM.
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  18. #165
    Somehow a thread about the bridge collapse turns into a thread about the racial identification of voters.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Somehow a thread about the bridge collapse turns into a thread about the racial identification of voters.
    It's not really about that, either, it's about the absurdity of Clown World. We're all supposed to just act like 2020 didn't happen now that we're going into 2024. Well, some of us actually have a functioning memory. So, if 9/11 conspiracy theory is laughably absurd, so is the 2020 election of Resident Joe Biden. Equally unbelievable.
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    And while US population is growing, it's not growing at a rate of 30-million new voters in 8 years. US pop in 2012 was about 314M. In 2020, it was about 331M. That's a total increase of 23M people. Obviously, even many of those are not voters.
    Maybe take just a moment to think about how vote counts can vary from election to election without the population of the US changing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Maybe take just a moment to think about how vote counts can vary from election to election without the population of the US changing.
    Yeah - just drastically change the rules for voting! Extend the windows. Allow mail-ins. Place unguarded drop boxes everywhere. Cover everyone's faces at the polls. Use shady machinery.

    Then call it the most secure election in history!!

    Oh, and a bridge collapsed.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Yeah - just drastically change the rules for voting! Extend the windows. Allow mail-ins. Place unguarded drop boxes everywhere. Cover everyone's faces at the polls. Use shady machinery.

    Then call it the most secure election in history!!

    Oh, and a bridge collapsed.
    The real problem with democracy is that people vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  26. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The real problem with democracy is that people vote.
    Dead or alive.
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The real problem with democracy is that people vote.

  28. #174
    Cause of Key Bridge crash becoming clearer, NTSB says
    https://www.wfla.com/news/national/c...rer-ntsb-says/
    {Maddie Biertempfel | 15 May 2024}

    WASHINGTON (NEXSTAR) – Top transportation officials shared new details Wednesday about the Baltimore bridge collapse to a committee of House lawmakers, who are now grappling with how to fund the new bridge.

    The crash in late March left six people dead and shuttered a key waterway.

    In its preliminary report, the National Transportation Safety Board now has some answers about what happened to cause a ship to crash into Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge.

    “The Dali experienced four total power outages,” NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy told the House Transportation Committee.

    Homendy told lawmakers the cargo ship Dali experienced blackouts the day before the crash, but the focus is on an unexpected tripping of a breaker moments before the crash.

    “They were essentially drifting,” Homendy said.

    The state of Maryland estimates a new bridge will cost up to $1.9 billion, which President Biden has said the federal government will fully fund.

    However, some Republicans say taxpayers shouldn’t be on the hook.

    “My constituents are not wanting to pay for this thing,” Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas.) said.

    Texas Congressman Brian Babin said the cargo ship company should pay before Congress does.

    “The country responsible for this incident should be footing the bill, not the U.S. taxpayer,” Babin said.

    Others on the committee voiced support for having bridge tolls repay the federal funds that go toward the rebuild.

    As lawmakers grapple with funding, Homendy urged states to examine their own bridges right now.

    “Do a risk assessment. You can do that now. You don’t have to wait until we issue an urgent recommendation or come to the conclusion of our investigation,” Homendy said.

    The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers says the full channel will be opened by the end of the month. A new bridge is projected to be ready by 2028.

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